Gab Interview with Melissa Mészáros
Melissa is a young Hungarian-American nationalist and YouTuber. She was born in New Jersey and returned to Hungary with her family as a teenager. Her channel is mostly devoted to videos of Hungarian issues, but she also comments on things as diverse as the American election in 2016 and more humorous things like “migrant hunting” in Budapest. You can find her on YouTube/kittensinurface or Twitter.com/kittensinurface
- So please tell us a little about your life. What was your life in the United States like? What was New Jersey like as a kid? Were you aware of your Hungarian identity from your parents or were they more interested in multiculturalism, diversity, and assimilation?
I lived in Central New Jersey for fifteen years. My parents were Hungarian immigrants who moved to the US in the late seventies. My father worked hard all his life in factories, and through years of dedication, he managed to get himself into a high position and make enough money to support me and my mother. I really respect him for his attitude. He was a classic traditional type of man. An ideal father figure.
I was always aware of my Hungarian identity. My father was very patriotic, and we had Hungarian flags and folk art hanging around the house. I always knew what my background was, and it filled me with a basic sense of identity. It was a comforting feeling. A very positive feeling.
- What type of values did you grow up with? I know you titled one of your videos “A lesson from God” did you grow up in a traditional Hungarian/Catholic family or was your family more like a “cultural Christian” family (i.e. Mass at Christmas and Easter but you don’t really follow the teachings of the Church).
Regarding that video: it was about a very personal subject at a time when I was trying to rediscover my own value system when it comes to adult relationships. Basically, I slept with a man on the first date, and a few days later, he disappeared into the great unknown, never responding to me again, deleting me off Facebook. The shock from that experience (I also put blame on myself for being so gullible and allowing myself to be put into such a situation) prompted me to make a video. I’m not sure if it was a good decision to go public with such a thing, but I did learn a lot from it. I understand my needs in a relationship a lot better.
As for what values I had growing up: my parents were religious but they didn’t go to church very often. Still, I knew my general place in life, and I try to adhere to classic female virtues.
- Why did your family choose to return to Hungary after leaving for the US? And was it difficult for you to adapt to life in a new country, even though you are an ethnic Hungarian?
We returned to Hungary in 2002. My father had retired early due to his long-standing battle with cancer which left him so physically weak that he had to stop multiple times to catch his breath while mowing our small lawn. Doctors gave my dad about one year to live. He decided he wanted to die in his homeland.
When we moved, I viewed the trip in a positive way. Like an adventure. I had great memories of spending summers in Hungary with my aunts. Also, I never really liked New Jersey because we lived in a very multicultural area, an ugly town with no real cultural or historical sites. Just a long highway with your typical assortment of fast food joints and malls lined up on both sides.
Adapting to Hungarian life was only difficult because my father passed away six months after we moved. Naturally, it took a while for me to feel better again. Once I sharpened my Hungarian skills, I was able to make friends, finish high school and university in Budapest.
- In one of your videos you mentioned that you fell into feminism in a dark time in your life, after your father passed away due to a long battle with cancer. Why did you think you took that rebellious path? Were you ever really into the Dworkinite branch of feminism that believes all heterosexual sex is rape and other anti-man anti-family stupidity?
After my father passed away, I lost interest in school and making new friends. I spent about a year just reading books (all varieties — from Stephen King to the Russian classics). I didn’t want to deal with people at all.
I was never a man-hating feminist. I was afraid of men, afraid or distrustful of people in general. To me, feminism is a pass to a life of irresponsbility. Feminism promotes unhealthy selfish behavior, and whenever somebody would call me out on my lazy, nasty attitude, I would shriek that they were being sexist and imposing evil patriarchal rules upon me. When actually, these people were just trying to help me out of my depression.
5. What is the connection between feminist women and just being downright ugly? It’s like they go out of the way to make themselves as unappealing to men as they can be.
I just read a news story forwarded by various mainstream sites that women are chopping off their hair because Donald Trump won the Presidential election. It’s a perfect example of how women try to make themselves as unappealing to men as possible. In their minds, they believe they are casting off oppressive beauty standards regulated to them by men, and that having smelly armpit hair is actually a symbol of power and freedom. In this way, female virtues and the natural order of femininity is corrupted and turned on its head.
I flirted with this concept a few years ago. After being stalked for a few months by a creepy porn producer I met in a Budapest night club, I felt this urge to sabotage myself, to hide, because I could not stand the attention I got from men. I had a great body then, I was really into fitness, and women in this situation face a good deal of reponsibility because of the increased male attention they get. They need to be careful when choosing who they let get close to them, because there are a lot of nasty guys out there. I was emotionally too immature or perhaps naive to handle this responsibility, so in frustration I gained weight, I cut my hair until it was just a few inches long and dyed it black, and I wore shapeless death metal band t-shirts and sweatshirts for a couple years. I did all this in hopes that people would just leave me alone.
6. What is the state of feminism in Hungary? Is it popular among the young post-Cold War generation of young women and men?
Hungarians haven’t been exposed to modern feminism. When they hear talk about feminism, they believe that it’s merely about equality between the sexes, when it’s actually so much worse.
Men are really not into feminism, but women are susceptible to it if they are in a weak position in life like I was.
7. I saw your video where you mocked these drunken, stoned, hippies at a music festival. What do you think the average state of the youth is in Hungary today? Is there still that strong traditional sense of identity that preserved the Hungarian people for more than a millennium or is it fading away with globalism?
Globalism is certainly impacting the mentality of today’s Hungarian youth, especially the ones that live in Budapest or large cities.
However, I have hope that Hungarians will survive. They have a positive view on their history, holidays, and culture. Also extremely popular are folk music and neo-folk clothing. There’s a steady industry where young Hungarian fashion designers include traditional folk elements in modern clothing. Small details like this are all important in keeping one’s national identity alive and healthy.
8. A lot of young Americans, myself included, are (or were before Trump won) considering relocating to Central or Eastern Europe. Most of us are right wing, and traditionalists, and nationalist. Would we be welcomed in a place like Budapest or would we be disappointed, do you think?
I’m certain Americans on the Right will find everything they’re looking for in Budapest. Or, if the city life is too obnoxious for them, then a smaller town or village where people are much more conservative, would certainly offer them a great, peaceful life.
Women are typically thin and feminine, while men work hard and behave like men should.
9. There is a lot of talk about the V4 states not taking their share of the Arabs and Africans, and now Slovakia has just passed a law banning Islam. Do you think something like that would be possible in Hungary or is the left still powerful enough to block such measures?
The left in Hungary haven’t had power since 2006, but they are still a nuisance. One thing that disappoints me about Fidesz is their corruption scandals. This is really damaging their otherwise correct efforts against mass immigration and globalism. Regular Hungarians often don’t have the time to pay attention to what’s happening globally. They don’t have a lot of money, and their number one concern is having a stable job that can support their family. When these corruption scandals break out, Fidesz slowly but surely loses voters, and they go either to Jobbik, or one of the fragmented leftist parties.
This is why recently there’s been a lot of chaos and failed referendums and policy changes here in Hungary.
10. Are France and Britain too far gone to be saved from the displacement of native ethnic groups by Muslims/Arabs/Africans?
I believe so. I think they will slowly blend into a multicultural afro-asian society with significantly increased crime. The whites of France and Britain are too afraid to stand up and fight back, and too many of them feel it’s better to just accept their fate. Give up, focus on the present, and try to ignore the terrible future ahead.
11. What books or films have influenced your life the most? What do you find yourself returning to time and again? Who are your favorite artists and authors?
My answers are probably not spectacular or unique, but here you go. I read Lord of the Rings every year in January. I don’t have any particular work that influenced me, but I love to read all variety of books. From crappy erotic vampire fiction to Tolstoy. I love writing and the English language, and it’s a life goal of mine to some day publish a book of my own.
12. Christmas is coming up soon! What are some of your favorite traditions (Hungarian or not) of the season?
Christmas is my favorite season, and markets selling traditional Hungarian sweets, mulled wine, hot apple juice sprout up all around the country. I love visiting these.
A major distinction between Hungarian and American Christmas is that here the Baby Jesus is the one who gives presents to children on December 24th. The religious element of Christmas is much stronger in Hungary, and people get quite offended when the holiday is “insulted.”
To give you a current example, in my town there’s a controversy over a big chicken called Hugoo which is the symbol for next year’s Youth Olympics (my town is the host town). This chicken is sitting on the lawn before City Hall, decked out in Christmas lights. People hate it. They even started a petition against it, and have been railing about how it is ruining the dignity of the most important Christian holiday.
In the United States, the so-called “war on Christmas” has been an ongoing subject for many years. I can see a similar war beginning here in Hungary, a watering-down of traditional Christian European culture. But it makes me happy that people fearlessly defend their traditions. They aren’t afraid to speak out for what they believe in.
As long as this happens, I have faith that Hungarian society is in a healthy state (if we overlook the demographic decline and the reasons behind it).
13. Can you give us a few Hungarian films and books that have been translated into English that you would recommend to anyone looking for a window into the soul of the Hungarian people?
A book that I always recommend in this case is the English translation of the Hungarian classic children’s historical adventure novel Eclipse of the Crescent Moon. The novel is required reading in elementary schools, so it’s a book that everyone is familiar with, and unlike many required reading texts in the United States, the people of Hungary highly revere this work. It’s something that is part of their childhoods.
The story takes place in the 16th century, and it’s about how 2,000 brave Hungarians fought back a massive Ottoman onslaught upon the Castle of Eger. The story is good, traditional, and nationalist.
14. Is there hope for Europe or are we rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic?
I have to admit, I’m pessimistic about the state of West. I don’t think Europeans will be able to solve their demographic problems by increasing their own birthrate, and since demographics is destiny, I think that slowly but surely the population of Europe — first Western Europe — will change and become mixed with African and Asian genes.
I’m not even sure that Central Europe will be able to solve their demographic decline. The question is whether they will continue to live in relative peace in a slowly declining society, or if they will eventually cave to the hordes of African and Middle-Eastern migrants banging on the borders.
If a new Renaissance of European identity and culture does not happen, I don’t see white majority areas surviving for another 100 years.
15. What are your personal hopes for the future? Do you want to get into journalism, become a public intellectual, get married and raise a good family?
My hope for the future is that I’ll live a long, peaceful life and raise a successful family in Hungary. Careerwise, I’d like to keep making Youtube videos (although I must admit at the moment, I’m in a bit of a dry spell with videos, but I know I’ll regain my motivation and determination soon). I’d also like to start a blog where I discuss smaller political and cultural issues, and also some personal matters.